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PostSubject: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyTue Oct 02, 2007 5:32 am

Ok here's a place to post political email....humor....and truth.

Also to comment on all of the above...Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyTue Oct 02, 2007 5:35 am

Hmmm ...a push for the New World order?? God help us!

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

(2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

(3) "(We) ....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

(4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

(5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

(6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

Now you might think these were the famous words of the Father of communism, Karl Marx........


....and you would be on the right track in thinking so.....but you would be wrong......


These pearls of socialist/Marxist wisdom are from none other than our very own, home-grown Marxist.........

Hillary Clinton!........

Comments made on:
(1) 6/29/04
(2) 5/29/07
(3) 6/4/07
(4) 6/4/07
(5) 6/4/07
(6) 9/2/05


Be afraid, Be very afraid!!
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptySun Oct 07, 2007 4:29 am

uhn....I don't have any of those
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PostSubject: The Obama Tidal Wave   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyFri Apr 11, 2008 4:48 am

We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare
> magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his
> followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of
> 'Change' or that he says he will be a 'Uniter'.
>
> The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful
> thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of
> speech and particularly the content changed millions.
>
> On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired
> millions and the results were catastrophic.
>
> Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many
> Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic
> and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens
> when it hits shore.
>
>
>
> Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:
>
>  He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state
> abortions.
>
>  Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
>
>  In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.
>
>  Says he will deal with street level drug deal ing as a minimum wage
> affair.
>
>  Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.
>
>  His religious convictions are very murky.
>
>  He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il
> and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
>
>  Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to
> have a conference with all Muslim nations.
>
>  Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.
>
>  Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
>
>  Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
>
>  Voted NO to making English the official language of the USA .
>
>  Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
>
>  Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social
> Security.
>
>  Voted with Democratic Party only 96 percent of 251 votes.
>
>  He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.
>
>  He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax
>
>  He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and
> that takes some doing.
>
> If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and you
> think that his positions will bring America together or make it a
> better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride and not forward
> this Email.
>
> If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands
> for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get
> off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and
> undermines the very foundations of t his great Country.
>
> We have limited time to save America or the Supreme Court as weknow
> it. Inaction is action.
>
> If you agree this is important, please pass it on. The mainstream
> media will not do it for you!?
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyTue Apr 15, 2008 1:32 am

Obama is just another ignorante to just not elect president
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu Apr 24, 2008 3:07 pm

I heartily agree....he has offended me a few times with some of his comments. I will have to pray for him. :D
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu May 01, 2008 9:47 am

and if I could vote...it would have to be for McCaine
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Good choice! And also my choice this time around.... Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu Aug 14, 2008 1:36 am

never really been one for democrats anyways
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PostSubject: Interesting political email I received.....   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu Aug 14, 2008 2:56 am

Are We That Stupid? YEP!!

Please Read This!!


This email comes in three parts:

Part 1

In just two years. Remember the election in 2006? Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a D emocratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

Quote of the Day...'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama
(Since we are the greatest nation in the history of the world, why is he looking to change it?)

Part 2

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
Www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.HTML

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married maki ng 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.

Part 3

You think the wa r in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! Verify at:
http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. Verify at
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.< /SPAN> Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.' Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid? If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.
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PostSubject: Obama in Afghanistan...story by email   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu Aug 14, 2008 3:08 am

This did not show up on SNOPES, but it rings true.


Hello everyone,
As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you what happened. He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram. As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service. So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you. I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just don't understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.
If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

In service,
CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
Battle Captain
TF Wasatch
American Soldier
(married and father of 6 children)
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PostSubject: Another Obamaism by email   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu Aug 14, 2008 3:09 am

"We are no longer a Christian nation"



Dear Friends,



As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . . "we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . ." As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation -- and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.



I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now -- send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!



Please pray for our nation!
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyThu Sep 04, 2008 6:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptyTue Sep 09, 2008 5:41 am

I know....sad huh. America is changing right before our eyes. Rise up Christians and vote for McCain Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptySat Sep 13, 2008 5:03 am

Subject: Vote!!

There are less than 3 months until the election,an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans.To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day. If you support Obama, please drive with your headlights off at night.

Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptySat Sep 13, 2008 5:28 am

LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:

HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MUSLIM, BLACK - WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS
'AFRICAN FAMILY'

HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHEIST, WHITE -

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER
AND HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM?

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG
AND WENT BACK TO HIS FAMILY (WHOSE FAMILY ?) IN KENYA ?

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE
WAS SCHOOLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL .

HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN
GRANDPARENTS ? WHEN ?

HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL
WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAIS ER.... HOW?

HE 'WORKED' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO - HAS NEVER HELD A
PRODUCTIVE JOB.

THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL,?
WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE

HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE'

BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER
GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A 'CULTURAL' GENE.

WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?

HE GOES TO AN 'AFROCENTRIC' CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS,? AND
BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS AND THEN REPEATEDLY
COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH

HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR,? BUT HE WANTS US TO
BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ,? YEAH, RIGHT!!!

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A 'UNI TER' AND BRING US TOGETHER.


I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER
UNTIL AFTER THE 'ELECTION'



LIKE I SAID AT THE START, ' I AM CONFUSED !!!!'?
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PostSubject: Re: Political humor....and truth!!   Political humor....and truth!! EmptySat Sep 13, 2008 5:32 am

Subject: Catching Wild Pigs (WOW)


Catching Wild Pigs

A chemistry professor in a large college had some
exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the
lab the Professor noticed one young man (exchange student) who kept
rubbing his back, and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter.
The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been
shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying
to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist
government.

In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and
asked a strange question. He asked, 'Do you know how to catch wild
pigs?'

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the
punch line. The young man said this was no joke. 'You catch wild pigs
by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the
ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free
corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down
one side of the place where they are used to coming.

When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the
corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to
that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four
sides of the fence up with a gate in The last side. The pigs, who are
used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you
slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run
around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go
back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have
forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept
their captivity.

The young man then told the professor that is exactly
what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us
toward socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of
programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income,
tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops
(CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc.. While we continually lose our
freedoms -- just a little at a time.

One should always remember: There is no such thing as a
free lunch! Also, a politician will never provide a service for you
cheaper than you can do it yourself.

Also, if you see that all of this wonderful government
'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America,
you might be correct!!!!

If you think the free ride is essential to your way of
life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when
the gate slams shut!

In this 'very important' election year, listen closely
to what the candidates are promising you!!

Just maybe you will be able to tell who is about to slam
the gate on America.

'A government big enough to give you everything you
want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.' -Thomas
Jefferson
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PostSubject: The Truth about John McCain   Political humor....and truth!! EmptySat Sep 13, 2008 5:37 am

PLEASE READ THE BELOW ARTICLE. IT TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN AND WHAT TYPE OF A MAN HE IS.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is the text from a WSJ article which is linked below…great article



By KARL ROVE


April 30, 2008




It came to me while I was having dinner with Doris Day. No, not that Doris Day, the Doris Day who is married to Col. Bud Day, Medal of Honor recipient, fighter pilot, Vietnam POW and roommate of John McCain at the Hanoi Hilton.




As we ate near the Days' home in Florida recently, I Heard things about Sen. McCain that was deeply moving.




When it comes to choosing a president, the American people want to know more about a candidate than policy positions. They want to know about character, the values ingrained in his heart. For Mr. McCain, that means they will want to know more about him personally than he has been willing to reveal.




Mr. Day relayed to me one of the stories Americans should hear.

It involves what happened to him after escaping from a North Vietnamese prison during the war.




When he was recaptured, a Vietnamese captor broke his arm and said, 'I told you I would make you a cripple.' The break was designed to shatter Mr. Day's will. He had survived in prison on the hope that one day he would return to the United States and be able to fly again. To kill that hope, the Vietnamese left part of a bone sticking out of his arm, and put him in a misshapen cast. This was done so that the arm would heal at 'a goofy angle,' as Mr. Day explained. Had it done so, he never would have flown again. But it didn't heal that way because of John McCain.


Risking severe punishment, Messrs, McCain and Day collected pieces of bamboo in the prison courtyard to use as a splint. Mr. McCain put Mr. Day on the floor of their cell and, using his foot, jerked the broken bone into place. Then, using strips from the bandage on his own wounded leg and the bamboo, he put Mr. Day's splint in place.




Years later, Air Force surgeons examined Mr. Day and complimented the treatment he'd gotten from his captors. Mr. Day corrected them. It was Dr. McCain who deserved the credit. Mr. Day went on to fly again.




Another story I heard over dinner with the Days involved Mr. McCain serving as one of the three chaplains for his fellow prisoners. At one point, after being shuttled among different prisons, Mr. Day had found himself as the most senior officer at the Hanoi Hilton. So he tapped Mr. McCain to help administer religious services to the other prisoners.




Today, Mr. Day, a very active 83, still vividly recalls Mr. McCain's sermons. 'He remembered the Episcopal liturgy,' Mr. Day says, 'and sounded like a bona fide preacher.'




One of Mr. McCain's first sermons took as its text Luke 20:25 and Matthew 22:21, 'Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.' Mr. McCain said he and his fellow prisoners shouldn't ask God to free them, but to help them become the best people they could be while serving as POWs. It was Caesar who put them in prison and Caesar who would get them out. Their task was to act with honor.




Another McCain story, somewhat better known, is about The Vietnamese practice of torturing him by tying his head between his ankles with his arms behind him, and then leaving him for hours. The torture so badly busted up his shoulders that to this day Mr. McCain can't raise his arms over his head.




One night, a Vietnamese guard loosened his bonds, returning at the end of his watch to tighten them again so no one would notice. Shortly after, on Christmas Day, the same guard stood beside Mr. McCain in the prison yard and drew a cross in the sand before erasing it. Mr. McCain later said that when he returned to Vietnam for the first time after the war, the only person he really wanted to meet was that guard.




Mr. Day recalls with pride Mr. McCain stubbornly refusing to accept special treatment or curry favor to be released early, even when gravely ill. Mr. McCain knew the Vietnamese wanted the propaganda victory of the son and grandson of Navy admirals accepting special treatment. 'He wasn't corruptible then,' Mr. Day says, 'and he's not corruptible today.'




The stories told to me by the Days involve more than wartime valor. For example, in 1991 Cindy McCain was visiting Mother Teresa's orphanage in Bangladesh when a dying infant was thrust into her hands The orphanage could not provide the medical care needed to save her life, so Mrs. McCain brought the child home to America with her. She was met at the airport by her husband who asked what all this was about. Mrs. McCain replied that the child desperately needed surgery and years of rehabilitation. 'I hope she can stay with us,' she told her husband. Mr. McCain agreed. Today that child is their teenage daughter Bridget.




I was aware of this story. What I did not know, and what I learned from Doris, is that there was a second infant Mrs. McCain brought back. She ended up being adopted by a young McCain aide and his wife. 'We were called at midnight by Cindy,' Wes Gullett remembers, 'and five days later we met our new daughter, Nicki at the L.A. airport wearing the only clothing Cindy could find on the trip back; a 7-Up T-shirt she bought in the Bangkok airport.' Today, Nicki is a high school sophomore. Mr. Gullett told me, 'I never saw a hospital bill for her care.'




A few, but not many, of the stories told to me by the Days have been written about, such as in Robert Timberg's 1996 book 'A Nightingale's Song.' But Mr. McCain rarely refers to them on the campaign trail. There is something admirable in his reticence, but he needs to overcome it. Private people like Mr. McCain are rare in politics for a reason. Candidates who are uncomfortable sharing their interior lives limit their appeal. But if Mr. McCain is to win the election this fall, he has to open up.




Americans need to know about his vision for the nation's future, especially his policy positions and domestic reforms. They also need to learn about the moments in his life that shaped him. Mr. McCain cannot make this a biography-only campaign, but he can't afford to make it a biography-free campaign either. Unless he opens up more, many voters will never know the experiences of his life that show his character, integrity and essential decency. These qualities mattered in America's first president and will matter as Americans decide on their 44th president.




Mr. Rove is the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush.




Footnote:
If you agree with me that this needs to be sent to everyone you know, so they can make better decisions as to who will be their next President, please send it to all your friends, and to those who won't get this in their local Press!




This link is the article in Wall Street Journal
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Excerpts from books by Barack Obama...perhaps these quotes are taken out of context...but scary all the same.


From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'


From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'


From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'


From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'


From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'





And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!


From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'


* If you have never forwarded an e-mail, now is the time to Do so!!! We CANNOT have someone with this type of mentality running our GREAT nation!! I don't care whether you are Democrat or a Conservative. We CANNOT turn ourselves over to this type of character in a President. PLEASE help spread the word
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Subject: Hanoi Jane





Here is one of the Obama supporters..............





Long after she's dead, people will wonder how she got away with what she did and never put on trial for treason! Some thought being married to Tom Hayden was punishment enough! Many thought there was no such thing as enough, nor was there any justice around!


YES, SHE WAS A TRAITOR..!


In Memory of
my brother-in-law
LT. C. Thomsen Wieland
who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton


She really was a Traitor.

IF YOU NEVER FORWARDEDANYTHING INYOUR LIFE, FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!
She really was a traitor

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED!


This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.


Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
'100 Women of the Century.' BY BARBRA WALTERS (How sick is this?)


Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed ,not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam!



The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot, Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the ' Hanoi Hilton.'


Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane
treatment' he'd received. Instead,He spat at Ms. Fonda!


He was clubbed and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant 's feet which
sent that officer berserk!


In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton!


From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
'Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was 'missing in action'.
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got cleaned-up, fed and paraded out


to show the world that they were alive, and being treated well.
Each man, though, secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand..


When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?'
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.



She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line ...and once the cameras stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and


HANDED HIM ALL THE LITTLE PIECES OF PAPER!.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings!
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four...
but he survived, which is the ONLY REASON we
know of her actions that day!


I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam , and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.


I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year
in a 'black box' in Hanoi
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)



We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals!'

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.


I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
'humane and lenient.'


Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.


I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released.


I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.


These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part of '100 Years of Great Women.'



Lest we forget...' 100 Years of Great Women'
should NEVER INCLUDE A TRAITOR whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many TRUE PATRIOTS!


There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
BLATANT TREASON, is one of them!



Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343


PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO
EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF
ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER
STATUS WILL CHANGE

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Seven & a half years!

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the
economy was fine.

A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

4) The DOW JONES hit a record high -- 14,000+

5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises and vacations
overseas, living large!


But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a
Democratic Congress & yep -- we got 'CHANGE' all right!

1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;

2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing;

3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars &
prices are still dropping;

5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

6) THE DOW is probing another low ~11,300 -- $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS
EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIOS!

YEP, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE! AND WE GOT IT! A DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESS, NANCY PELOSI. HARRY REID.

Now the Democrats' candidate for president -- and the polls say he's
gonna be 'the man' -- claims he's gonna really give us change! Just
how
much more 'change' do you think you can stand?

Have a very nice day.
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Black Talk Host Says Obama Not Truthful; Reveals Facts
By Jim Kouri CPP (09/14/08)

While the mainstream news media attempt to destroy -- yes, destroy -- Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin, they cannot resist the impulse to overlook the lies, half-truths and deceptions of Barack Obama and his comrades on the left

Terry Anderson( http://theterryandersonshow.com/ ), an African-American talk show host in Los Angeles, provides a list of 39 things Democrat presidential hopeful Barack Obama claims are facts, but further investigation shows they are not exactly correct.

Senator Obama is easily sailing through his campaign without media scrutiny, while reporters rummage through Gov. Sarah Palin's past in order to discover anything that may hurt her politically.

While Oprah Winfrey practically lap-danced for Obama, she's refusing to have Palin as a guest on her show ( see petition urging Oprah to invite Gov. Palin to be a guest on her syndicated television show http://www.palinpetition.com/ ).

Anderson's list is quite interesting:

1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that...and for more. Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. Whe n Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/290390

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982271/posts

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - & lt; FONT face=Arial color=purple size=2>NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rath er handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 (That's 15 Million) who don't have to buy it.

39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russan army did the liberating.
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I got this 3rd hand at the water cooler, and, of course, have no way to substantiate something that must be DNC Top Secret/ Compartmentalized.



Let me share some info with you that I have gotten from excellent sources within the DNC:

On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to occur after the VP debate on 10/2.

There have been talks all weekend about how to proceed with this info. generally, the feeling is that we should all go ahead and get it out there to as many blog sites and personal email lists as is possible. I have already seen a few short blurbs about this - the "health problem" cited in those articles was aneurysm. Probably many of you have heard the same rumblings.

However, at this point, with this inside info from the DNC, it looks like this Obama strategy will be a go. Therefore, it seems that the best strategy is to get out in front of this Obama maneuver, spell it out in detail, and thereby expose it for the grand manipulation that it is.

So, let's start mixing this one up and cut the Obamites off at the pass - send this info out to as many people as you can - post about it on websites and blogs - etc etc [/size]
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Lincoln was right!!!!



TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND READ THIS LETTER. THESE ARE STRONG, POWERFUL AND COURAGEOUS WORDS COMING FROM A RETIRED COLONEL, AND READ WHAT LINCOLN HAD TO SAY AT THE END. WOW!



33 Senators Voted Against English as America 's Official Language on June 6, 2007.



On Wed. 6 June 2007, Colonel Harry Riley, USA , Ret. wrote:



Senators: Your vote against an amendment to the immigration Bill 1348.... to make English America's official language is astounding.



On D-Day, no less, when we honor those that sacrificed in order to secure the bedrock, character and principles of America , I can only surmise your vote reflects a loyalty to illegal aliens



I don't much care where you come from. What your religion is. Whether you're black, white, or some other color...male or female......Democrat, Republican or Independent..... But I do care when you are a United States Senator representing Citizens of America ...and Vote against English as the official language of the United States



Your vote reflects betrayal, political surrender, violates your Pledge of Allegiance, dishonors historical principle, and rejects patriotism. It borders on traitorous action and, in my opinion, makes you unfit to serve as a United States Senator...impeachment... Recall........Or other appropriate action is warranted, or worse.





Four of you voting against English as America 's official language are presidential candidates: Senator Biden, Senator Clinton, Senator Dodd and Senator Obama.



Four Senators vying to lead America , but won't, or don't, have the courage to cast a vote in favor of English as America 's Official Language when

91% of American citizens want English officially designated as our language.



This is the second time in the last several months this list of Senators have disgraced themselves as 'political Hacks'.... Unworthy as Senators and certainly unqualified to serve as President of the United States .



If America is as angry as I am, you will realize a backlash so stunning it will literally 'rock you out of your socks'....... And preferably totally out of the United States Senate.



The entire immigration bill is a farce... Your action only confirms this really isn't about America .. it is about self-serving politics......despicable at best.. It has been said: 'never argue with an idiot...they'll drag you down to their level!'





PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID: 'Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damages morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, quickly tried and hanged!!!'



PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING AROUND THE UNITED STATES UNTIL THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER!
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*_Sarah Palin Regarding Her Experience_*

There has been a considerable amount of discussions centered around
McCain's pick for vice president, Mrs. Sarah Palin, and her lack of
experience. Her critics must keep in mind, that there are three
branches of government, the Executive, the Legislative, and the
Judicial. The President and the vice president works in the Executive
Branch, which means the persons occupying these positions must have
executive or managerial experience. In other words, the President of
the United States will be the CEO of the country. So we must ask
ourselves, of the four candidates running for office, which one has the
most executive or managerial experience.

*Palin's Experience vs Obama's and Biden's*

Critics have often mentioned that fact that Mrs. Palin was a two term
mayor of a city with only 9,000 residents and that she has only been a
governor for two years. When we look at Barack Obama and Senator Biden
(her primary critics), neither of the two have ever managed a small 7-11
convenience store or a town of 20 people, nor have they ever ran a
corporation (or any size) as a CEO. So what executive experience do
they bring to the Executive Branch of government?

*_The Executive Branch
_*
Like the CEO of any corporation, the Chief Executive Officer of the
United States must be a good manager and have the ability to select a
very competent staff to run the corporation (our nation). he or she do
not have to be an expert in every department of the corporation
(marketing, manufacturing, product development, engineering, quality
control, human resources, accounting, advertising, or foreign trade).
It is the CEO's job to surround himself (herself) or hire people to
perform these task for them and to advise them (the CEO) in these
specific areas. Mayors of cities and governors of states are the
closest related jobs to the position of President of the United States.
Perhaps this is why so many of our most recent presidents have been
governors (Clinton, Carter, Reagan and Bush). None of these individuals
as governors had any real, foreign policy experience and none of them
thought enough of Senator Biden to select him to be their Secretary of
State or National Security Advisor (to advise them in the area of
foreign policy). I have never seen any sitting president seek the
advice or the counsel of any of the governors mentioned above on
foreign policy matters.

*_Governors Are Mini Presidents_*

One might say that governors are mini presidents. Governors have their
own military (National Guard), they are elected and legally responsible
for a territory, they have their legislative and judicial branches of
governments (including their own Supreme Court), they have to establish
budgets, create jobs, work with both political parties to get
legislation passed, encourage the growth of businesses in their
states,20maintain a thriving economy, and look out for the welfare and
the safety of millions of people under their jurisdiction.

Sarah Palin is the only person (currently) running for office that has
this type of experience. Rumor says, Obama didn't even manage or run
his household - that was Michelle's job. So if Obama has never managed
a small 7-11 store, or been the mayor over a town of 20 people, nor has
he ever been the pastor of store front church of 15 people or more for
15 minutes, how can he manage and oversee an entire country that consist
of millions of residents for four years?

*_Obama Community Organizing Experience_*

Many may say, what about Obama's Community Organizing experience.
According to Obama's own account of his work in this area (in his book:
*_Dreams From My Father_*), he only served in this capacity for slightly
over a year and was not very successful. His lack of success and
frustrations is why he decided to go to college (page 252-253 and pages
275-276.

*_Sarah's Pregnant Daughter_*

Sarah's pregnant daughter has nothing to do with her qualifications. It
is most unfortunate, but many good parents have experienced the same,
including preachers and politicians. The questions that we should be
asking is: Did Obama have sex with his white college girl friend? Did
she get pregnant? Did Obama recommend that she get an abortion. The
reason why we bring her u p, that she is the only serious relationship
that Obama refers to in his book Dreams From My Father (page 211). As
you know they broke when they had a fight regarding black people being
angry. Obama said his white girl friend cried and she that /*if she
could be black she would.

*/Jimmy Carter had his beer drinking brother, Billy, Reagan had his
divorce issues, Clinton had his affairs, Cheney had his lesbian daughter
and George W. had his partying daughter. We must all ask ourselves
this: Did our pre-marital sex or our children's premarital sexual
activities (against our wishes) affect our careers?

Rev. Wayne Perryman
P.O. Box 256
Mercer Island, WA 98040
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